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Monday, October 17, 2005

The Origin of Language

Two of the great mysteries of human development are

(I) How did spoken language originate?
(II) How do children learn language so quickly?
The first of these two questions is rarely discussed by contemporary linguists for the simple reason that we don't have a clue how language came into being. We know from an evolutionary standpoint that the difference between primate and human vocal apparati was critical to language development but as was noted by Carl Zimmer, who is quoted at a religious "Origin of Language" site as saying in his book Evolution:
No one knows the exact chronology of this evolution, because language leaves precious few traces on the human skeleton. The voice box is a flimsy piece of cartilage that rots away. It is suspended from a slender C-shaped bone called a hyoid, but the ravages of time usually destroy the hyoid too.
Typically, when scientists don't have an answer to a question they keep their yaps shut. And we do that with one exception and that consists of comparing such things as the human "voice box" Zimmer refers to and the primate vocal apparati and comparing parts of the human brain known to be involved in language processing with corresponding parts of primate brains. That is, we can hope to say what it was that evolved that allowed languages to come into being, but we cannot say how and when it did so.

So, what linguists do is focus on the second question. It is a great mystery how it is that children learn language in a relatively brief period -- from something like the age of 2 to the age of 12 or so -- and they do this without being taught. Parents and others provide models and parents and others also provide corrections though frequently the latter are totally lost on young children for they are seen not as corrections of linguistic form, a notion that is quite abstract, but as a denial of the truth of what they say. Some very good advice is given at a Kid Source site where it is said:

How can I help a child pronounce words correctly?

* By setting a good example. Don't interrupt or constantly correct the child. Don't let anyone tease or mock (including friends or relatives). Instead, present a good model. Use the misarticulated word correctly with emphasis. If the child says, "That's a big wabbit," you say "Yes, that is a big rabbit. A big white rabbit. Would you like to have a rabbit?"
The keys are confirming the truth of what they child has said while providing a correct model. And what is said about pronunciation holds for corrections of grammar. We had a picture of a pig in our linguistic offices for years which said, "Teaching a pig to speak annoys the pig and wastes your time." The same is sometimes true of correcting a young child's speech.

One of the truly unfortunately developments in linguistics in my opinion has been Chomsky's focus on what he has sometimes called "the language organ." In an Q and A with a BBC interviewer in 1996, Chomsky says, speaking of the problem linguists face:

So, the main goal was: find the actual rules of language. Then the next goal would be: explain how they got there. Well, to explain how they got there you have to go back and ask: what's the initial state of the language faculty? What's its initial design, presumably common to the species, because we're not adapted to learn one language or another? So, what is the initial design of the common language faculty that enables it to take these highly intricate, closely articulated, delicately structured forms very rapidly on the basis of minimal interaction with the environment? It's a typical problem of growth -- you know, of growth of organs -- in this case the growth of the language organ.
I shudder every time I think of Chomsky's "language organ."

As I said in my last blog, when I showed up at M.I.T. I was disposed not to take very seriously Chomsky's talk about our innate language faculty. Why did/do I feel this way?

In my opinion, the approach of Chomsky to the second question asked at the beginning of this blog about how children learn language is little different from the sort of answer that Christian and Jewish religious fundamentalists give to the first question I asked above. At the religious Origin of Language site I cited earlier one reads:

When God created the first human beings—Adam and Eve—He created them in His own image (Genesis 1:26-27). This likeness unquestionably included the ability to engage in intelligible speech via human language. In fact, God spoke to them from the very beginning of their existence as humans (Genesis 1:28-30). Hence, they possessed the ability to understand verbal communication—and to speak themselves!

God gave very specific instructions to the man before the woman was even created (Genesis 2:15-17). Adam gave names to the animals before the creation of Eve (Genesis 2:19-20). Since both the man and the woman were created on the sixth day, the creation of the man preceded the creation of the woman by only hours. So, Adam had the ability to speak on the very day that he was brought into existence!

Notice how easy it is for the people responsible for the Origin of Language site to answer this amazingly difficult question. All they have to do is quote the Bible.

If science were this easy, anyone who can read could do it. It is hard to figure out what the human vocal and auditory apparati consist of and how they might have evolved and how the brain evolved to provide the capacity for humans to learn the languages we speak today, as well as learn how to use them. When God created Adam he is said to have been given the capacity to speak instantly. That is, he was not only provided with what Chomsky calls "the language organ," he was given a specific, full blown language, with its sounds, its morphemes, its words, and the grammatical rules that allowed Adam to speak to Eve (also outfitted with this stuff) the moment she was created. This is a point of view that is staggeringly simplistic.

I feel the same way about Chomsky's answer to the second question with which we began. How do we learn languages? Easy, Chomsky says. We take our "minimal environmental" data and let our language organ go to work on it. Of course, linguists who try to specify the features of this language organ or, what is the same thing, who try to specify the features of universal grammar face a very difficult task. That takes very hard work. But at a fundamental level, Chomsky's answer to the question of how children learn language is as simplistic as is the Bible quoter's answer to the question of where human language came from.

Notice Well: I am not making fun of religion. There are numerous religious points of view that do not involve providing simplistic answers to difficult questions. I learned years ago that I am not an atheist per se. I was raised as a Southern Baptist and it is those teachings I reject. That makes me a fundamentalist atheist I suppose. As for other religious points of view and there are very many including religious views of very smart, sophisticated people I have nothing to say. They don't interest me. As I suggested, when a scientist knows he can't answer a question, his best option is to stay silent.

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43 Comments:

Blogger L>T said...

More then learning language is the need to communicate. For instance Helen Keller, where would she fit into this debate? Obviously, her need for communication overrode any physical abilities she had.

12:03 PM

 
Blogger L>T said...

I think what Peter was saying about language being skill and not knowledge is prehaps the idea that as humans, learning language is an inhert instinct,urge, or whatever and a persons ability to communicate coherently, involves skill. Am I close Peter?

12:10 PM

 
Blogger AndyT13 said...

I sure hope you have more to say on this topic. Obviously the bible thing is out and I see you are comparing Chomsky's to this, but I want to hear the counter argument.
That is to say, what better explanation then? Keeping silent in one's ignorance is one thing, but surely it would be OK to hypothesize, no?

2:14 PM

 
Blogger windowtomymind said...

Long winded. Get concise and to the point. And remember--But what are kings when regiment is gone, but perfect shadows in a sunshine day.
Peace

7:30 PM

 
Blogger thinking girl said...

Hi Mike,

I'm an undergrad student in philosophy, and taking a class in philosophy of language. I've jsut read a bit of Chomsky on the innateness of language, and I didn't really buy it, myself, either. A language organ? hmph. completely counter-intuitive, in my view. How do children learn such a highly intricate, rule-laden thing such as language? We train them from birth, that's how! years of daily, repetitive, inescapable and intensive training will certainly teach a child of reasonable mental faculty how to use language properly.

I find this is the hardest class for me thus far (I tend toward ethics, philosophy of mind, and feminist theory). I didn't do so well with logic, and this is so similar... but I enjoy reading your site, it helps me to grasp some things a bit, and see a use for this subject outside of my degree requirement! Thanks!

ps - how about a discussion of Wittgenstein? I find him puzzling, yet strangely entrancing... that Tractatus of his left my head spinning!

11:08 PM

 
Blogger Dana said...

I am glad to have found your blog. I have written a great deal about language over the years, but I seek to celebrate all its aspects with humor rather than in your more pendantic stance. I write of other things as well, but there is usually at least one language post on my curmudgeonmanifesto blog site. I also have a book celebrating some of the major accents of this country, with darts hurled at the pomposity of the Brits, and others, plus other goodies. The book is featured in dynamicwriters.com web site. Title: MARE KIN:The Language We Speak Instead of English.
I have bookmarked your site, and I look forward to further visits. Cheers. Dana

12:52 AM

 
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2:11 AM

 
Blogger J_G said...

LG, Yes, I do believe you understand the theory of disagreeing but not being disagreeable. I do not claim to have all of the answers and the Good Lord has given me the ability to think for myself.

I often wonder how the language I speak (American English) came about. I have been extremely interested in learning how to speak the French lanuage as it was spoken in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries. I have a great interest in history and consider myself an amateur historian. The French were a very noble and refined society in the time period I have mentioned. I have been studying the many aspects of the period.

I try to be very clear in my writing to get my exact point across to the reader. Language is important and interesting to me but my education is definitely lacking.

No one has all the answers to the questions I have. I can't say that I completely understand all the things that are written in the Bible. I was given the curiosity to find as many answers as I can in the short period I have on this earth. Life and it's meaning are a mystery. I like it that way.

6:00 AM

 
Blogger Language Guy said...

Wittgenstein was my hero when I was a philosophy student. I read his "Philosophical Investigations" many times. His theory that the meaning of a word is its use cannot be the whole story. In my blog on "The Meaning of Meaning" I distinguish "conventional meaning" from "utterance significance." The latter depends critically on the context in which it is used. And increasingly semanticists are providing analyses of conventional meaning where context plays a role. But the notion of "utterance significance" is a way of making sense of Wittgensten's point of view.

7:27 AM

 
Blogger J_G said...

There are so many different languages in the world today. There are just as many dialects that further modify any of these languages. I think it is up to the person that is trying to establish the communcation to make clear the rules of engagement (so to speak).

Words are only part of the language. The meaning of the words and their context of use has to be established before there is understanding.

There are words that describe two entirely different time periods for two different civilizations for example; Kamakaze. This word in Japanese means "divine wind". The meaning to the Japanese is an event when the Japanese perceived themselves to have been saved by devine intervention with strong winds that repelled an armada of Chineese invaders. To Americans "Kamakaze" means a last ditch, suicidal attempt to change the outcome of a losing postion.

There is also body language that goes along with the words to assist in communicating. Words alone cannot fully explain. Voice invection, eye contact, body position and other actions are all part of the language.

Your blog is helping me to think more about how we communicate through language. I'll be back again. Thanks LG.

11:27 AM

 
Anonymous Peter Kleiweg said...

"As I suggested, when a scientist knows he can't answer a question, his best option is to stay silent." What a silly suggestion. Science would come to a complete halt. The scientist's best option is to ask more questions.

11:32 AM

 
Blogger L>T said...

Listen L. Guy, not all of us have time to go back and spend hrs. reading your posts. We are trying to stick w/ the subject here. Please clarify.

11:59 AM

 
Blogger Dancing Crow said...

I have a thought that may deserve some consideration in this debate.

I seem to recall some research on rats that involved running their descendants in the same mazes they were.
The out-come of the test seemed to indicate some sort of "ancestral memory". With all other factors equal, the offspring of the intial batch were running the maze much faster than the parent rats.

We could possibly postulate similar circumstances in humans. Perhaps a stronger genetic predisposal to language skills than currently supposed. This would also support the idea of an evolving language predisposision. Might explain Chomsky's current view.

A similar set of experaments was undertaken where a set of rats was run through a maze repeatedly until they knew it well. Then they were processed and their brain chemicals were transfered to other rats. The rats receiving the chemicals had a noticibly steeper learning curve than untreated rats, on the same maze.

I apologise again for my rather scattershot approach, I received a fairly serious injury and the resulting anoxia ended my studies abruptly. The result is I know things I cannot properly connect. (almost like a stroke)

Oh well, such is life.

12:02 PM

 
Blogger Dancing Crow said...

Shoot! did it again. I left the paras in the wrong order. I realy do think some skills are transferable.

12:09 PM

 
Blogger J_G said...

LG, I suppose there are as many theories as there are known varibles on how the human language evolved into what it is known at present. I believe over time that enviromental conditions, political divisions and gender have affected a major portion of those changes.

I often question how each one of the different languages i.e German, French, Spainish, Italian and especially Portuguese are so different in such a small geographical area. Whereas here in the US in basically the same geographical area size the language is very much the same save a few local nick names and special identifiers.

I travelled extensively in Europe years ago. I was able to understand certain words and phrases from many of the different languges but there were some that had to be pulled from the handy translation guide. It is very amusing to hear a French person of today say to me. "They would rather speak sign language than to hear me murder their language" :-) This is a very interesting subject to me.

9:37 AM

 
Anonymous Sabrina said...

To thinking girl:
If Chomsky is hard to follow, but you'd like a wonderful explanation of the the theory of innateness of language, try The Language Instinct by Pinker. I prefer Words and Rules by the same author, but The Language Instinct really backs it up and explains more fundamental research and theory. While I agree with your intuition that children learn language by hearing it over and over and over, there are some instances which just cannot be explained by hearing a language spoken. As one small example, children of pidgin (not a real language, but a makeshift collection of agreed-upon words so that speakers of different languages can communicate) speakers spontaneously create a creole (a real language complete with grammatical rules) without any prompting from adults. In fact, the adults are unable to communicate with the resulting creole.

Sorry Language Guy, I don't mean to promote on your blog a theory you clearly reject, but I have been convinced that some innateness exists. Surely, the truth lies somewhere in between.

9:56 AM

 
Blogger L>T said...

language guy, I have decided things are getting a little dull here. No fault of yours. So, I've posted some thing just for you on my site 'The World of L.Tart" Enjoy!
P.S. I promise it's not nasty, well mabe a little. Luv from L>T

12:12 PM

 
Blogger Wisemantown United Methodist Church said...

Hello, I appresiate your notice at the end of your post. It is generally the case that comments are made concerning Christianity, Jesus, or the Bible without consideration for the wide expanses that exist between certian Christian interpretations of the Bible. Someone in a comment earlier stated that the Bible was "out." Too a certain extent I agree. The bible does not address, at least not in a modern scientificly "sufficient" way, how or where language originated. The issue at the heart of the matter is interpretation of scientific data. This is where I believe that the Bible is not "out." We all interpret out of a tradition. I judge that the Christian tradition provides the best lens through which to interpret even scientific data. This doesn't mean that I or any other Christian will enevitably reject the data of scientific research. My point is that God is an always feasible consideration (theology).

It is imperative that we don't read back into the Scriptures the ignorance of those who attempt to interpret it(fundamentalist).

Many Christians judge that Bible alone (sola scriptura) is not an adequate means of doing theology. Certain Christians give as much creedance to reason, tradition, and /or experience. If, as a Christian, I judge the Theory of Evolution to be our best option, then I would come to a conclusion on it, not merely from reason (scientific data), but experience, tradition, and the Scriptures.

Language Guy: What you said concerning scientist and humility in the face of uncertainty, holds for the Christian as well.

3:25 PM

 
Blogger Copernicus Now said...

Sabrina brings up the interesting and oft-cited matter of how the children of pidgin speakers will create a creole.

This is frequently used as evidence for the innateness of language. And the innateness of language supposedly leads us to the language organ.

It seems to me that generalization is at least one of the key mechanisms in transforming a pidgin to a creole, if not the main one.

I would think the mechanism of generalization is what permits the children to regularize the pidgin into a creole.

Although generalization is an innate mechanism, that does not mean to me that it depends on a language organ, or any special organ, for its existance.

Generalization is a mechanism that can come about in a system that favors certain accidents. It is a mechanism that can come about by mixing accident with intelligence.

Falling on one's bum is an innate ability of small children and even of people my age, but I do not believe an organ (or gene) is needed to drive that functionality.

Generalization establishes a rule, often based on the omission of some information. This may happen deliberately. This may happen by accident. It can happen by making assumptions based on limited information.

It can also happen by suppressing information (or other rules) in order to make things fit a previously established rule.

My young daughter still says bleeded instead of bled. She catched instead of caught. She probably won't say those things in a couple of years because the rules she has established will be overridden.

When I speak French, as meagerly as I do, I want to say "pleurer" instead of "pluvoir". Because it seems more regular to me. I have not had much impact on French speakers at large because their rules override my own.

I would say that children do have an innate ability to regularize language -- all the more so when transforming pidgins to creoles -- but it seems to me they are relying on accidentally regularization caused in part by their limited knowledge and limited attention.

The exact same mechanisms occur in day to day use of English and French. Not just by children, but also by me.

The influence of children is much greater in the case of pidgins because the adults who created them did so without a strong base of (pre-existing) generalized rules that will override the new rules formed by the chilren as they mold their accidents into a language.

8:56 PM

 
Blogger J_G said...

I am certain that learning a language through immersion is a good way to learn a new lanuguage. I have seen many new programs for Spainish speakers to teach them to speak American English through immersion.

I think children learn this way and they also have a propensity to learn because children are always needing (wanting :-) something and it's essential to them communicate these desires to Mom.

Later on children become more adept in the language for the purpose of advancing themselves in the social hierarchy.

I'm looking for better ways to understand how to learn different languages for my own pleasure and curiosity. I don't need to learn another language to survive, that would be a totally different scenario.

James, I think God gave us all these mysteries to unravel to keep us busy. Science and faith are interconnected. I do believe though, that over the years many have used the scriptures to benefit themseves rather than God.



PS LG, The url for "comments" at the end of your posts seem to have a Javascript error. If you have made changes to your template you may need to modify the changes or contact blogspot for help. They really do have a "Help" section that is very useful. There isn't too many of those!

9:13 AM

 
Blogger Language Guy said...

Sabrina is right about Pinker. He is a better source than Chomsky himself.

Copernicus Now speaks to the very interesting and vexing issues of pidgins and creoles. A lot of things have been said about creolization of pidgins that I believe to be false but I won't go into these. One of the more interesting issues is how African American Vernacular English (wrongly called "Ebonics") arose. Is it just another Southern dialect or dud it began as a pidgin, turne into a creole and then morph increasingly in the direction of standard Southern English or some combination of the two, namely a blend of the two. Certainly there have been creoles spoken by African Americans and they were exposed to Southern American English.

9:18 AM

 
Blogger Language Guy said...

Sorry about my spelling. I find writing in these tiny boxes awful. I just now experimented and discovered (duh!) that they can be made big. All glory to Google and Mozilla Firefox.

9:20 AM

 
Blogger Copernicus Now said...

If you have the inclination to discuss pidgins and creoles in more detail -- perhaps in a later post -- then I, for one, would greatly appreciate it. Personally, I consider it a fascinating subject, and would welcome a chance to improve (and probably revise) my current understanding.

10:15 AM

 
Blogger S.R. Deardorff said...

" Later on children become more adept in the language for the purpose of advancing themselves in the social hierarchy. "
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The above is false; there isn't one teenager, nor twenty-something, in the world who thinks that if they expand and refine their vocabulary, they will climb the social ladder. A more accurate reflection relating to social hierarchy would be:

" Later on children become more adept in the symbolic subjugation of others for the purpose of advancing themselves in the social hierarchy."

There, now we have an accurate picture of American society.

11:52 AM

 
Blogger J_G said...

Sorry LG, It wasn't your blog or template that was the problem with the "comments" url. It was the aggressive settings on my firewall preventing pop ups.

You use word verification and so do I on my blog. I use a firewall and all kinds of anti spam and anti virus software. The language is quite clear. The internet is full of "ratfinks". I always liked that appropriate word!

11:56 AM

 
Blogger demondoll said...

Thank you for the fascinating post. I can't claim to understand it all, but it is wonderful(literally).

2:02 AM

 
Blogger J_G said...

American society today has it's problem with childen not learning the correct way to communicate.

It is through the failed public education system that is designed to subjucate all to a bureaucratically controlled government.

Instead of teaching the children to think for themselves they are taught to fight over government entitlements. That is only one segment of our society today.

There are still parents that teach their children to think for themselves and learn how to flourish as individuals.

What a gray and dismal world it must be to see things in this manner.

"Later on children become more adept in the symbolic subjugation of others for the purpose of advancing themselves in the social hierarchy."

There, now we have an accurate picture of American society.

4:34 AM

 
Blogger Marc André Bélanger said...

Okay, I'm coming into this discussion a bit late. Here's a few thoughts.

Thinking girl said a "highly intricate, rule-laden thing such as language"
That depends on how you look at it. It is intricate, but the seeming rules stemp from a relatively limited number of principles. If we start with the point of view that the primordial unit of language is the word, and not the sentence, as is often the case in linguistics, things get a little bit simpler. Words in a way tell us how to use them to construct sentences.
Yes, "the meaning of a word is its use cannot be the whole story", because words are more their mere semantic sense, they also have a grammatical one. They cannont be reduced to actual meanings in specific sentences.

J_G: "the French were a very noble and refined society in" the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries. Yes, as the Terreur has shown us. Seriously, one thing I find interesting, language-wise, is that not all people in French spoke French (many spoke local dialects or languages), while in Quebec at the same time, French had already been unified.

Dancing Crow said: "Might explain Chomsky's current view." Actually, his view has changed a lot in the course of time, but when he posited some sort of Language Acquisition Device, he was simply admitting that he couldn't figure out children's abilities.

J_G: "I often question how each one of the different languages i.e German, French, Spainish, Italian and especially Portuguese are so different in such a small geographical area." That's noting, Cameroun actually has 300 languages (not dialects) in a much smaller area. People there all speak at least three different languages, often more.

Sabrina: "the theory of innateness of language, try The Language Instinct by Pinker." The theory presented there is flawed, especially when it comes to the "language gene" (FOXP2), see http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002456.html As for the pidgin-to-creole phenomenon, it simply shows that children need to organize things in a coherent fashion (hence the "invention" of grammar).

9:26 AM

 
Blogger L>T said...

I'm sorry if my sense of humor is irritating you. I'll stop. I have a serious question envolving a word & I feel you are the only one who can answer it.
Long story short: The other day a policeman came to the door looking for my daughter. I said she wasn't home(her car was in the driveway). He accused me of being surly & said, "Why are you like this, blah, blah...the several times I've been over."
I said with a sneer, "Oh' several. You mean the Three times you've been over.
He said, "Yeah, several."
well an argument insued over the meaning of the word 'several.'
After he left I looked up 'several' in my giant dictionary and sure anuff, he was right!
My problem is I cannot reconcile in my mind this seeming contradiction.
I have always thought of several as more then a person can count at a glance. For instance if I was walking down the beach and saw 3 birds I would never go & tell you I saw several. Why would I not just say 3? If there were 6, 7, or 8 birds or even five and I wasn't sure then I might say several.
Does this make sense to you or am I a moron missing something?
P.S. I really am serious. This is bugg'n the heck out of me. Also I'd like to tell that smartass cop that he used the word improperly, somehow.

9:50 AM

 
Blogger S.R. Deardorff said...

J_G said...

"What a gray and dismal world it must be to see things in this manner."

Actually, my world is quite the mixture of pachyderm grey, pine tree green, sunshine golden yellow, and orange sparkle beams cascading across gleaming turquoise seas. The only dismal part of the scene is the self righteousness and pride slowly eating away like a cancer on the human being.

But, if you must, you can keep your illusion if its needed for you to feel as though you're better than somebody. I don't at all mind helping you to live in a happy state, even if part of your picture is pure fantasy.

Good Day,

Sean

2:44 PM

 
Blogger J_G said...

Sean this is LG's blog please be respectful. I'm sure the public education system taught you what that word meant.

10:53 AM

 
Blogger S.R. Deardorff said...

I'm holding you in as high regard as possible, all things considered. Please, stop trying to point out others' faults in order to make yourself feel good. As it stands, you're now 0 for 2 in attempts to make truthful observations about someone you don't know.

Peace,

Sean

12:51 PM

 
Blogger J_G said...

Go to my blog Sean and post your identity.

1:03 PM

 
Blogger uglygirl said...

J_G said...
Sean this is LG's blog please be respectful. I'm sure the public education system taught you what that word meant.

WOW! Here YOU are being disrespectful to sean, the public education system, and in some ways to the language guy. cos he can handle his own business.

9:24 AM

 
Blogger S.R. Deardorff said...

grrr...i deleted my somewhat lashing reply after a visit to j_g's blog and a greater understanding of her filters here's the dog unshaven:

the goodness of god, untouched,
crouches inside his heart
holds bits n parts of
every thing light n dark
necessarily contrarily
abated by his touch
softly
slow
cradling
bold n contagious n
some forever bowl
called
forgiveness

peace n whatnot,

sean, life artist

3:58 PM

 
Blogger S.R. Deardorff said...

oh...P.S. one part of the deleted post read as such: "I've no need nor compulsion to justify self to anyone but self and, to appease the heavenly, that thing you call god."

4:00 PM

 
Blogger J_G said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

12:57 AM

 
Blogger J_G said...

Going About My Everyday


When going about my everyday as I do
A change in perspective today
I catch a glance from a stranger
They seem to notice it too

Happiness seemed to be just out of touch
From the beginning life was always very different
The mist, the veil, the cloud all began to be lifted
Anger, silence, and sadness as a crutch

Everyone greeted with a true smile
Some may still be detractors
I go about my everyday
Hello, how are you? Chat for a while?


Jennifer Gallagher

3:51 AM

 
Anonymous Jim Online said...

Nice post and thank you for the BBC interview. Pretty interesting.

9:54 AM

 
Blogger Language Guy said...

You are welcome, Jim.

10:12 AM

 
Blogger Hunkston said...

Ever since I finished school I didn’t think I would want to have anymore lessons ever again, however recently I have wanted to learn a foreign language, maybe become fluent in one and basic in a couple of others. I did a bit of research and found there were loads of different packages available I went with one that claims you teach yourself French and I was impressed it was a computer program that helped with pronunciation and speaks back to you so you can hear it too.

5:45 AM

 
Blogger Thr Language Guy said...

Such programs can be used with great effect. I would vote for Rosetta Stone. Expensive. Buy it on Ebay if you can.

8:30 AM

 
Blogger Julz said...

Well, expensive thing are really good. You will really know what the effect.

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8:41 AM

 

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